Re: Soft for Dancers Up Date #2/ Articles On Line[was dance and language thread]

From: kema T. (kema@kema.org.uk)
Date: 04/09/02


In message <p05100304b8d7d9c860e2@[192.168.2.30]>, Armando Menicacci 
<armando@noos.fr> writes

No please don't apologise, I was merely offering the basic definition of 
what dancers and choreographers would call a gesture.

Maybe my comment at the end of the post gave a different energy to my 
intention.

although I have replied to imageimage in a reciprocal manner.

Kema

>>Something that any intermediate dance student would know.


>I'm really sorry Kema, I must apologize: my English must be really 
>awful if you understood this from my proposal. English is not my first 
>language (it isn't even my second), so I might have expressed in an 
>ambiguous way As a matter of fact, I didn't say at all what you 
>mention. Maybe I can take some more time to go deeper into 
>biomechanics, but, to be short, I haven't said that a movement has no 
>"transference of weight" simply because there is a displacement of the 
>center of gravity in almost every human movement even if there is no 
>"weight transference". A human being is always making gestures since 
>all the segments translations are related to intentions and intentions 
>are modulating the gamma nervous system. What I wanted to say is that 
>in every gesture there is a movement (segment displacement) PLUS 
>something else that is related to what we call "tonic function" or that 
>physiology calls A.P.A or Anticipatory Postural Adaptation (My 
>translation of "Adaptation Posturale Anticipatoire must be very bad, 
>but I only know some physiology in Italian and French. My medical 
>english is pretty poor.
>
>I apologize again. Please feel free to mail again if something is not 
>clear in my proposal
>
>Best regards
>
>>to keep it simple and straightforward :
>>
>>In terms of dance, not a dictionary definition,
>>
>>  a gesture is a movement that has no transference of weight i.e. a 
>>hand raised, a nod of the head basically a movement that does not 
>>travel.
>>Something that any intermediate dance student would know.
>>
>>Kema
>>
>>>
>>>First of all let me repeat that for me there is a difference between movement
>>>and gesture that is essential. To b really short a movement is the change of
>>>spatial position of a joint in relation to a reference system (e.g. 3D
>>>coordinates). On the other side all the definitions of gesture are 
>>>leading to the
>>>question of meaning. A gesture, for most of the dictionaries I've seen is a
>>>movement that has a particular meaning for an ethnic group.
>>>For example there are movements in a mechanical watch or in a locomotive,
>>>but there is no gesture.
>>
>>--
>>Kema T. Ekpei Esq.
>>
>>kema@kema.org.uk
>>www.kema.org.uk
>
>

-- 
Kema T. Ekpei Esq.

kema@kema.org.uk
www.kema.org.uk

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